Readers Say
 

Over the years, topics and reactions both change and remain the same
VersagiVoice will occasionally withhold the name of a reader for cause, but we do not publish "Anonymous" comments which have been received without the sender's identification. NOTE; For some of the earlier reader reactions, the accompanying links may no longer be active.    Previous Comments

Landlords and Renters reacted to last week's brief mention that CITCOM has directed Staff to design a census-type inventory of rental housing in Royal Oak. Owners and prospective purchasers of rental housing share the same concerns, as summarized below.

Frank,
You reported that CITCOM approved the design of a Census type survey to measure rentals in anticipation of amending the City Property Ordinance.  Please explain that to me, as I am buying a HUD house and plan on renting it out. Am I making a mistake?

Reply:
If your proposed purchase is part of a sound financial strategy and if you intend to be a responsible landlord, there is no need to hesitate. What's happening is that there have been complaints about landlords not maintaining their rental properties and about the lack of attention by code enforcement. Additionally, it is thought that the number of rentals may be rising in these difficult economic times. The proposed survey is designed to determine the current number of rental properties. At the same time, there have been suggestions that existing ordinances be made tougher. -- FJV

About the city's enforcement, one hears:
Every other year they do an inspection and issue a permit to rent. Usually they make an appointment, come in and inspect every room. Last year, they just did a drive by, for which I paid $100.00. So, how can "they" tell if a property is not up to code? Food for thought.

Then there's this.
Years ago, the inspector was great. I did not know quite what I was doing as a landlord, and he helped me out a lot with good information about what should be done to keep up the property.
-- 13 May 09

Reader reaction was subdued this week. A quiet but dominant focus of concern can be expressed as, "What do we watch for as what you call 'the Jim Rasor Affair' proceeds?" I'll use this space to address that concern.

Interest is both strong and widespread because city hall observers already have strong feelings, pro and con, about each of the two main players: ZBA member Jim Rasor, who is being threatened with expulsion from his volunteer-post; and City Attorney Dave Gillam, who has been assigned, in effect, the role of prosecutor in this legal hassle. Identified as supporting actors in the drama are Commissioners Stephen Miller and Carlo Ginotti, and we are sure to hear from others. Unfortunately, what should be a civic issue has become a political one.

What to watch for?
As a point of reference, think back to the debate re local television channel WROK. Leaving out individual names, the substance of that debate was, "Has a member of CITCOM threatened the contract employee responsible for WROK programming?" The other aspect in the discussion was procedure: Who called for which meeting? When? Who said what to whom? When? About substance, observers had the choice of which individual(s) to believe. About the procedure, nothing short of a year-long investigation would bring closure.

In most such civic or political disputes, one can readily separate substance from procedure. In the Jim Rasor Affair, procedure is substance. From the limited information disclosed so far, Gillam will be contending that Rasor violated protocol somewhere in the process of distinguishing between his role as a ZBA director and as an attorney for Bordine Nursery. The back-and-forth of reaching the City's out-of-court settlement with Bordine might have been considered the substance of the debate, but it is unlikely that that legal settlement is significant at this point.

Listening to arguments about procedure is second only to listening to budget talk in causing eyes to glaze over. So the problem for those attending or watching the forthcoming public hearing, if a hearing is actually held, will be not to pre-judge each esoteric argument based on one's feelings about the "sides." That's going to be tough, because I suspect many voters, even those who respect all the players, already know who they want to win this battle, and why. -- FJV: 29 Apr 09

Laura Harrison-at-Large

In General

Hi, Frank.  Are you having fun yet?

I find it interesting all the comments made by assorted people regarding several things. My question is: would all this be going on if the economy were better and jobs were plentiful?
I have to agree with Commissioner Miller about his stand regarding wanting to talk about the city budget. I think there were several opportunities in the past several months, where he put the budget on the CC agenda and other commissioners blew him off and didn't want to discuss it.

This city has serious money problems and no one wants to talk about it. And a millage is not the answer. Putting one's head in the sand solves nothing.

I commend Bill Shaw for his tenacity regarding Royal Oak's legacy costs. Another item that should be discussed are the various city funds and how those monies are spent. e.g.-water fund, parking fund, road fund, DDA fund, etc. Anyone ever heard of transparency?  Oh, silly me!

About Appointments

This is a comment regarding appointments to boards.
I applied to the ZBA and the DDA for the first time back in the mid-eighties and finally was named to the ZBA in 1988 (I think).  Anyhow I was still on the board when I ran for city commission.  When I won (much to my amazement), I had to resign from the ZBA. Conflict of interests. Jim Johnson had to resign from the DDA when he was named to the Commission for the same reason.  City Attorney at the time made the ruling.

After I returned to my "real life", I wanted to get back on the ZBA.  It was a board I enjoyed working on and felt I could offer my past experiences. The rules have changed after the new Master Plan & codes replaced the very old one. Something else new is the Training session ZBA members have with a zoning expert. We have one coming up in May and I am making a list of questions. Even at my advanced age, I am still learning.

But remember, and this was pertinent now as it was back in the 80s, the person who applies for the variance at the ZBA MUST prove hardship. That is my #1 criterion.

A new theme appeared as other readers besides Laura reacted to last week's VersagiVoice. I'm being told that it is unfair to state or imply that only the city commission is guilty of less-than-straightforward handling of volunteer appointments. A handful of residents whose identity I know described past incidents, during earlier city commissions, when named department heads maneuvered to oust volunteers who asked too many questions or who challenged a committee's institutional mindset. An especially troublesome committee was dissolved and its duties moved elsewhere at the behest of ____, a couple of readers claim.

Added Comment:
If one's exposure to our elected officials is limited to watching or reading about their performance at The Table, the pictures of individual personalities may be distorted. For example, Chuck Semchena, somber and lawyerly during CITCOM meetings, currently serves with me on the Charter Review Committee. Before Chuck, there were Carlo Ginotti and Pat Capello. Without exception, these commissioners make/made no attempt to pull rank. They work with us volunteers, bringing in their official position only when it provides context for our deliberations. In contrast, during the mid-90s, commissioner Tom Kuhn made it clear that he was running the CRC. Of interest, our current city attorney, Dave Gillam, was deputy city attorney at the time and served as the city's legal liaison to committee. (Gillam left the city for several years before returning.) Today, the CRC is served by Assistant Deputy City Attorney Mark Liss.

Another example: I have sat in on a meeting or two of Parks & Rec, where Terry Drinkwine is the attending commissioner. He mingles, takes part in the volunteer-and-staff dialogue, offers to follow up on questions, without demonstrating any of that bulldog demeanor which sometimes characterizes his behavior at The Table. Then there are the informal appearances of the elected officials at civic and social gatherings throughout the year, where they may or may not be introduced while they mingle.

There's an applicable analogy which I use in my management consulting: Think of Royal Oak city government, its operations and its people, as a shiny apple with a brown spot here and there. While addressing the brown spots, of its operation and its people, keep in mind that the bright shiny red apple is still there. -- FJV: 22 Apr 09

§ I see several inaccuracies in the legacy cost list of R.O. retired police officers. The report of my pension does not include the 3 years military time I bought bringing my length of service to 27.1 yrs rather than 24.1 yrs. Some like Philip Barach with 43.42 yrs is way off. -- Dick Stanley, R.O.P.D. Retired

NOTE 1: VersagiVoice readers have relayed complaints from retired and current city employees who maintain that publishing financial information about them is a violation of privacy. Afraid not. One of the trade-offs which taxpayer-paid public servants have to accept is that their compensation is, must be, a matter of public record. Not as serious, but worth mentioning as the public mood turns sour in Royal Oak, is the reaction re VersagiVoice, expressed as, "Some of us are surprised that you're still standing."

NOTE 2: Other retirees have reached out directly to VersagiVoice, offering diverse viewpoints about all this. I'm going to take time to absorb what's coming in before deciding whether and how to use their input helpfully.

§ Frank, My thanks to Bill Shaw for exposing the Retiree Benefits for the city employees of RO. I must say it took me several hours to get myself off of the floor after I passed out. I knew it was a huge expense to the city but never dreamed "how big." No private business could give these amounts away after so little years of service and not go bankrupt. It's sad that the taxpayers have no say when the "hens take over the chicken coop" but we will for many years pay the price. After reading this list I don't feel sorry for our city and its budget crisis WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!

On another note I agree with the refusal to grant a permit to Bordine's. Jim Domanski's quote about competition being everywhere does not apply to this. English Gardens spent good money to fix up a building in our city. They are struggling to do business all year, they put up a terrific light display for us all to enjoy. They support this city 12 months a year and Bordine's moves in to set up in a parking lot during their busy season. I applaud the ethics. -- Ilene Hill

§ I think that the commission should stop playing games and fighting against each other and start doing their job. They were voted in by the citizens of R.O. and they should start listening to the citizens. They need to leave their differences at home and come together at the table and make the City of Royal Oak and its Citizens come first. Thank you, Frank, for all you do and enlightening the citizens of R.O. -- Carol Hennessey

§ [Re Commissioner Andrzejak's suggestion to post retiree legacy payments and active employee compensation on city's website]
Both great ideas and valid points. I do not, however, believe the City Commissioners need to prove or reveal their source of income although if said income is related to any company doing business with the City of Royal Oak the timing of payments and amounts should be revealed to dispose of any possible conflicts of interest.

On another topic, I was watching the City Commission meeting (March 23, 2009) and was stunned, once again, to watch the Commissioners with a 4-3 vote deny the new “Q” BBQ Restaurant application to transfer in a liquor license from outside of Royal Oak. Mayor Ellison made a fantastic counterpoint voting against the denial. Perhaps if the Commission would let a liquor license transfer into Royal Oak, the existing liquor licenses in escrow would come down to a price level a reasonable business person would be expected to pay. -- Barry Stoey

Another experience with the Freedom of Information Act.

Addressing your Obama comments:
You ask whether there is anything to governing besides talking.  After serving as an elected official for almost 8 years I can tell you definitively that the answer is NO.  All politicians can do is speak and write to persuade others to their point of view.  Barack Obama is not going to personally fight in Afghanistan, is not going to repair the space shuttle and actually isn't even going to type up his own budget.  What he can do is develop and present ideas and try to get other people to follow them. -- Scott Galloway, Ferndale

Ok Frank, I read your website and I'm on a rant.
I found it appalling that Michael Steele found it necessary to apologize to Rush Limbaugh for calling him out as being out of touch with most republicans. As a right leaning independent I feel that, if the republican party is unable to get down to the business of being fiscally conservative, hawkish on national defense and tough on crime, while at the same time staying out of people's personal lives, the party will fall by the wayside. Whatever happened to separation of church and state. It is interesting to meet and talk with members of the gay community, who are also fiscally conservative, tough on crime and hawkish on national defense, but have no choice but to support democrats, because the republicans have the "morality police" telling them how to live their lives.

The republicans are quickly becoming the insignificant party of grumpy old white guys. I know personally, unless the leadership of the republican party is willing to tell hard-line, egotistical, close-minded bigots like Limbaugh to go screw themselves, I'll be voting for democrats in Washington for the foreseeable future. -- Clyde Esbri
 

Is it time to declare Limbaugh-led Republicans as the modern equivalent of the Whig Party (founded 1833-died 1856)? Their philosophy owed much to warmed-over Federalist ideas, in opposition to the populism of Andrew Jackson.  They succeeded in electing two presidents, both former generals in an age of American expansionism, who died in office.  Like CPAC Republicans they squabbled among themselves about America's true path, which led to the ultimate breakup of the party over (among other things) slavery.

Their St. Reagan(s) were Daniel Webster and Henry Clay, whose death removed their most forceful personalities, just as should anything happen to the Blessed Rush, I suspect the Republican party would be in for a few hard years.  Or he may yet lead it off a cliff, in which case the Whigs may return. There are still Whigs (in name) around (see http://modernwhig.org/) although they would be more likely to have voted for Obama than McCain based on their web site. -- Brendan Wehrung

Finance Director re Leaf Collection
[Commenting on a money-saving suggestion]
Leaf collection is funded by a special voted solid waste millage. The leaf collection service is probably a major reason why our citizens voted for that millage. There is no general fund money used for leaf collection.

 
That means any savings that would accrue from discontinuing leaf collection could not be used to maintain police, fire or any other general fund activity. It would remain in the solid waste fund.
 
I think you will find most cities collect leaves. Historically, I believe this started when burning leaves was banned. -- Don Johnson: 28 Jan 09

Former commissioner re DDA appointment
I read your latest update and I was surprised to discover that, according to your report, I had recommended that the entire DDA board be dismissed. This statement really left me puzzled. Nowhere in my statement did I suggest that the entire DDA was mis-focused, and if you listen to my words, you will hear me say "I think you need some fresh blood", not a complete transfusion. Since I will soon be joining them as a member, I think it is important to set the record straight so we can all move forward for the benefit of our city. Thanks for your attention. -- Pat Capello: 28 Jan 09

(VersagiVoice readers took seriously my plea last week that we all need a break from focusing on the city's financial and political conundrums.)

Being an inveterate reader, I have been pleased to read your "Book Reports" and even though I may not read all the books - I do have some different tastes - I do appreciate reading your reviews. Thank you. -- Laurie Levy

About wildlife in urban areas. When I was out this summer campaigning for my wife, a resident showed me a doe and her fawn sleeping in the backyard of a vacant home. The backyard abutted the I-696 service drive and was between Hoover and Schoenherr (close to the ITC transmission lines). -- Mark Liss

The History of the Christmas Parade emcee
The following communication is provided by Peggy Goodwin, former Marketing Consultant for the DDA.

As you are aware, I elected not to renew my contract this year because of other client obligations after six years of building the holiday magic parade, sponsorship of it and a concerted consumer marketing plan for Downtown Royal Oak.  I would like to share the facts about parade narration that were stated, in part, by Commissioners Capello, Ginotti and Lelito last night.  It is so sad to see this debate taking place period, but especially with the recent tragic pedestrian deaths of a beloved senior citizen and a woman cycling to work, the escalating rate of foreclosures, unemployment, etc and yes – the city budget debate. Mr. Shaw said it best. 

Regarding parade narration on WROK, each year I worked with Rich Wilson and Greg Walter, to secure emcees for the parade.  The first few years we had representatives from our media sponsors including reporters from the Detroit Free Press, Daily Tribune and Mirror alternating along with attorney Charlie Langton (Langton was already an established WROK volunteer). 

Though all Commissioners and the Mayor were invited to participate each year, three commissioners and the mayor attended the parade each year and enjoyed being part of it.  In 2005, I asked Commissioner Ginotti if he would be interested in emceeing because he really enjoyed it, was a good fit with Charlie Langton, and, as an elected official – I believed it helped to humanize a City Commissioner’s role.  In 2006, I asked Commissioner Capello to join Commissioner Ginotti, because, she too, was great ambassador of the parade and willing to take it on.  There was no coercion, political pressure or posturing to obtain this volunteer position.  It also goes without saying that each of them possesses the necessary talents of improvisation, articulation, enunciation and most importantly, a sense of humor.  I do believe it is healthy for the community to see two elected officials, who may have been at odds at the commission table at times, coming together for the good of the community – and, it is nice to have both a male and female perspective.  It was also clear that Mayor Ellison and Commissioner Lelito, enjoyed walking in the parade each year.  These were the elected officials from the Commission table who attended the parade each year.  Having Commissioners Ginotti and Capello narrate the parade did not ever preclude anyone else from volunteering or inquiring about it, whether an elected official or not.  The fact is, they wanted to do it – they enjoyed it and the community enjoys them. 

I so miss Pat Capello’s rational and eloquent delivery of the facts – as she presented last night at public comment.  Everything she said was spot on!  It was very sad to see that Commissioner Ginotti’s name was published in the Free Press as if he was being fired from a paid position.  And, I do recall that the DDA is empowered by the elected officials who make up the City Commission, not vice versa. They may be “sponsoring” the parade, but they have always gotten full credit, visibility and thanks for the parade from the Commission table, the media and elsewhere. -- Peggy Goodwin

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§ Anyone who lives in the shadow of Beaumont knows that someday the corner of 13 Mile/Woodward/Coolidge will be "Beaumontland". And it will spread out from there and already has. But the one thing it does bring to the community is JOBS, something not even the Michigan governor can do. -- Laura Harrison

Dear Frank,
Glad to see you are still at it! I felt it was time to continue testing the waters on budget concerns and how the city has prepared itself for the upcoming assessment declines. I am most interested in the fact that the homes in Royal Oak with the highest taxable and State Equalized Values have fallen into foreclosure due in part to the fact that their assessments were never justified. The homes on Vinsetta, North Vermont, and Cedar Hill have taxable values stating that the true market value is north of a million dollars and in all of the circumstances have taxes north of $18,000.00 per year and in some north of $30,000.00 per year.

Yet when they come up for sale they are not able to find a buyer willing to pay a price greater than $600,000.00 and the one with the highest taxes, over $38,000/yr, cannot find a buyer for more than $400,000.00 and they have has yet to be completed. I can only imagine what the city of Royal Oak will charge the eventual owner after the home is finished. My guess is north of $45,000.00/year -- since Royal Oak is Michigan's Manhattan (ha-ha). People that live in 8-10,000 sq ft. mansions on Cass Lake are glad they do not live in Royal Oak. Or is it simply that Royal Oak's assessor is Robbin Hood (robbin' as in a robber).

If you bring in a fabulous project or complement to this city they will find a way to chase you out. Just like Black Fin, this is ludicrous, they want to call this company before the LCC because they advertise. Keep in mind they put up with 3 years of bureaucracy before they could open. -- Chris Lee

10 Sep 08
§
I seem to recall a fleeting reference to a DPU (Directed Patrol Unit) during the police discussion.  I wondered what world the commissioner was living in. This 5-person specialist unit was supposed to concentrate on specific crimes (or problems) while this same commissioner is content to strip the department of so many personnel that we will be lucky if remaining patrol officers (not to mention detectives and supervisors) have the time to be generalists, catching even a part of what goes on before it becomes a noticeable concern. -- Brendan Wehrung

§ Frank: I still keep up on Royal Oak affairs -- old habits die hard. Just visited your web site again after several years and I must congratulate you on the series of "Hagelstein conversations." Great reading. It's neat to see so many perspectives all in one place. -- Ken Marten,  former City Editor for the Royal Oak Mirror, now a writer for several regional publications, including the Daily Tribune. Ken also has a band which played recently at the Farmer's Market.

This is a good place to point out that residents with widely varying opinions cite the same reason for appreciating these conversational profiles: "I get a look at the character and temperament of those guys making decisions which affect me or my neighborhood."

04 Aug 2008
I'm leaving on vacation later today, so I won't be covering tonight's CITCOM meeting. Here, I turn over the page to readers thoughts and concerns. Comments began arriving within  minutes of the latest update of VersagiVoice.

§ Concerning the "leaked" memo about restructuring the Royal Oak Police Department . . .
. . . The handful of comments came from either individuals who identified themselves but chose not to be quoted or from persons who provided no identification.

It quickly became obvious that different memos were being confused. . . . Two writers wonder whether commissioners missed a memo which was included in their 21 July 2008 packet because they still aren't competent at working with the electronic format. . . . Sides were taken re Administration vs. CITCOM --  some of the reasons being their like or dislike for individual commissioners or members of city Staff. . . . . One respondent complains that he/she? is tired of "whining" by the Police Department.

A common thread in these messages is expressed in this extract:
"I'm referring to the majority's tendency to spend an extraordinary amount of time and energy on relatively trivial issues, and then complain that the staff does not jump through their hoops quickly enough.  We need people on the commission who promise to do less.  A little humility would help also."
 
Then there are questions of general interest.

Question: What is the procedure for removing a city manager?

Reply: The combination of Tom Hoover's applying for the Florida job and the increasing unfriendly jousting at CITCOM meetings has led Hoover's admirers and his critics to ask about the procedure for removing him.

The City Charter, Chapter Three Section 19, specifies that the City Commission may terminate the City Manager by a majority vote, after providing the manager with written notice, scheduling a hearing, and the like. Although the language does not mandate a super-majority, it does require "the affirmative vote of at least four" commissioners. This protects against a smaller number, though legally a quorum, accomplishing termination.

In Royal Oak, a collective bargaining agreement supersedes the Charter, as explained here by City Attorney Dave Gillam.

As far as the City Manager is concerned, any termination would primarily be governed by the Manager's negotiated employment agreement, which would supersede the Charter in the event of any conflict between the two.  In Tom's case, his contract (which is a public record) clearly states that he is an at-will employee.  A vote of a majority of the City Commission at a public meeting would be required to terminate his employment with the City. (Remember that a public body is prohibited from taking any formal action during a closed session by the Open Meetings Act.)  I would expect any action of this nature to be on a published agenda, but the issue could be added to a published agenda by way of an amendment at the start of a meeting.

Question: How would the vote go if termination got on the agenda?

Reply: Sneaky, sneaky! At the moment, I see three sure votes for termination, two sure votes to keep him, and two swing votes.

Question: VersagiVoice has reported that a thriving downtown is kind of self-contained economically and that there's no solid evidence that neighborhoods benefit from the fact that Royal Oak is an entertainment destination. Detroit sure proves that point. Does it follow that  neighborhoods won't suffer if downtown loses its attraction and fails?

Reply: I don't know. Let me get back to you on that.

Question: Why have you been snooping around about the police department restructuring?

Reply: Just before the controversy erupted, I had held a coffee conversation about youth-focused groups with High School Liaison Officer Al Carter. I needed to know how to refer to him in my report and whether the report had to be modified in any way. I'll publish Officer Carter's observations next week.

§ About City of Detroit problems

Frank: I don't understand why the Detroit papers, and now you, continue to state that Dave Bing is the only business leader to call for Kwame to resign. Keith Crain, who runs one of the largest Detroit-based businesses, was the first business leader to do so, and he continues to do so frequently in his Crain's Detroit Business column, on the influential boards on which he serves and to his friends in the Detroit business community. Full disclosure: I was a VP of Crain Communications from 1989 to 1996. -- Jeanne Towar

§ About International Affairs
(Interesting that two writers cite Pat Buchanan)

Holy cow Frank. I don't expect to agree with everything you write, but your statement "the United States has rarely sought to create an empire" is just plain wrong. The Mexican War and Spanish American War were blatant imperial land grabs, as was the taking of Hawaii.  Today we operate 702 military bases in 40 foreign nations, supported by a global navy.  The sun never sets on American soldiers.  That's empire. We need to get out of the empire business, it costs much more than it brings in. -- Tom Regan

After a bit of follow-up communication, Regan added:

Yes, military bases alone do not make an empire; it also takes the CIA, weapons deals, military training, advisers, massive, often illegal meddling in the internal politics of other nations, and frequent wars.  I say that from a left-wing perspective, but the empire transcends right-left pigeon-holes. Both liberals and conservatives have been very enthusiastic empire-builders, and both McCain and Obama are eager to continue it. I agree completely with right-wingers like Pat Buchanan on this one--the empire is very bad for the United States, it is bleeding us white.  I'd love to see some kind of right-left Anti-Imperial League form again, something that has not really existed since Mark Twain (a staunch anti-imperialist) was alive.

§ From Joe Drew, my grandson in New York City:

Your comment about the end of the American Empire reminded me that I've not told you I finished Buchanan's book. A bit delayed by the trip to Germany, but it was an invigorating read.

In the final chapter, he throws everything in the cupboard at Churchill, even dragging out the Mental Deficiency Act. But it's not just cheap character assassination, it's all designed to show the fellow's poor judgment.

In the last few pages, Buchanan spells out his moral, and I thought you might find these bits interesting:

"America is the last superpower because she stayed out of the world wars until their final acts. And because she stayed out of the alliances and the world wars longer than any other great power, America avoided the fate of the seven other nations that entered the twentieth century as great powers. The British, French, German, Austro-Hungarian, Russian, Ottoman, and Japanese empires are all gone. We alone remain, because we had men who recalled the wisdom of Washington, Jefferson, and John Quincy Adams about avoiding entangling alliances, staying out of European wars, and not going "abroad in search of monsters to destroy."

"As Chamberlain gave a war guarantee to Poland he could not honor, the United States began to hand out NATO war guarantees to six Warsaw Pact nations, the three Baltic republics, and, soon, Ukraine and Georgia. Should a hostile regime come to power in Moscow and reoccupy these nations, we would have to declare war. Yet no matter how much we treasure the newly free Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, their independence is not a vital U.S. interest, and never has been. And the threatened loss of their independence cannot justify war with a nuclear-armed Russia."

 "If two or three of the IOUs we have handed out are called in, the bankruptcy of U.S. foreign policy will be exposed to the world."

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About the Downtown vs. Neighborhoods dialogue,
retailer and resident Laura Harrison comments:
As a long time downtown retailer, maybe I have a different perspective as to why I located downtown. When I was looking for a location I looked all over, Berkley, Clawson, strip malls, etc. I chose Royal Oak's downtown for a variety of reasons, among them being square footage, rental price, close to home (2 teenagers at the time), parking (boy, has that changed) and the synergy of being with other retailers. My customer base is more than just Royal Oak residents. A downtown location is the best for such businesses like independent retailers and we just love tolerating the grief from city hall. (NOT!) 

The best thing added lately to the look of the downtown are the hanging flower baskets. 

Context: Last week's VersagiVoice report about the Zoning Board of Appeals consideration of Bordine Nursery's request for a variance criticized, without naming, ZBA members for asking out-of-focus questions. Below, board member Andrew Androff comments on that criticism.

I have continued to read your in-depth observations of city meetings and events and I appreciate how you keep the community abreast of news.  I got a chance to review your latest article and I wanted to respond to your comments regarding the May 8th ZBA meeting. You are absolutely correct in pointing out that the specific issue at hand was whether a transient merchant permit is permitted in an Industrial Zone. In the history of Royal Oak, no transient merchant has applied or been granted that this variance be waived. So we were really exploring un-chartered waters. 

The reason that I would have liked to see the property owner is because he has a vested interest in our city. He is the one who has continued to pay the taxes on that parcel of land and he is the one who will be collecting $40,000 in rent from Bordine for the 60-90 day period. He stood to be the direct beneficiary of the ZBA waiving the industrial zone use variance. I wanted to hear his experience with the property and what it would mean to him. I did not want to merely make a decision based on speculation and the dreary headlines we read in business reviews and local newspapers.   

It is commonly recognized the poor state of commercial and residential real estate and how our local industrial businesses are either evaporating or shifting to international operations. However, as a business owner of a commercial and industrial relocation firm, I still see quite a few industrial companies remain and looking to relocate locally to take advantage of lower lease rates, better location, and more modern facilities. In fact, this week my company is moving an industrial firm from Auburn Hills to Troy. 

As for the question regarding water consumption, it was a separate issue that I inquired about to gain insight for a later conversation that I planned to have with Don Johnson regarding how additional water usage by certain businesses and how it will affect projected future water rates for Royal Oak residents. 

Finally, my 10+ years background in the trucking industry and limited experience on traffic committee provided me insight to safety issues regarding truck routes. Before the meeting, I visited the proposed site on three separate occasions to really study the layout. It would be completely unadvisable for me not to have made a big deal about establishing a designated truck route that would be separate and distanced from the designated parking area for potential customers. Had Bordine representatives not agreed to designate a truck route, I felt there would be a safety issue and I would not have supported a transient merchant to operate in the requested industrial zone.

In the end, this was my first meeting as a voting Zoning Board member and I have much to learn. Tonight, I will be attending ADA training and I am working with the city to receive additional training as it becomes available. I look forward to continuing to serve our city, and I will always welcome any of your criticism that could lead to better decision making and more positive results for our Royal Oak residents and businesses. Your idea about the laser pointer was great and I will send a follow-up email to ZBA board members asking for their consideration. In the meantime, it is evident that it is time to dust off the Master Plan and begin re-engineering the plan to be able to better adapt to today's marketplace. -- Andrew Androff: 21 May 2008

A  former ZBA member comments on the same article.
Your article about the English Garden's/Bordine's debate brings to light another, more important issue with ZBA and the Plan Commission... the need for experienced professionals to address the issues and help maintain the focus of the issues amongst the board. It's frustrating to hear board members bring up issues that have no bearing, "I don't like this or that" for personal preferences vs. the issue of appeal. This frequently happens on both boards where emotion becomes the issue. In a more ideal scenario, each board should have a volunteer or two with an
architectural planning and/or community development background. I know Doug Hedges frequently bites his tongue and would have a lot to say for the best interest of the city if he could. I only wish he could sometimes because he is one of the experienced professionals I'm speaking of. 

After six years of service, this is what I came to learn. I am no longer on the ZBA in part because of these frustrations. Sometimes I miss it, sometimes I don't. -- Brandon Becker
-- 21 May 2008

Your list of "cities in financial trouble" is specious. The cities talked about have been on the edge of collapse for years, or decades. And the "solutions" suggested apparently come from the same source. It's rather like asking a stockbroker "should I buy stocks from you?" Of course he's going to sell his "plan" to do away with life as they knew it.
 

Royal Oak isn't that far down (yet). I suspect there are other, more creative ways to at least smooth out the rough ride we are going to have starting with the 2009-2010 budget. Who knows, citizens might even surprise you by voting for a temporary millage increase rather than have city services dismantled. 

Probably not, but maybe. We all need to listen to (boring) budget presentations so we will understand what taxes buy, and what lack of funds will cost us in the long run. -- Brendan Wehrung: April 2008

Internet Filters are the hot item these days (Spring 2008)

Reaction to VersagiVoice's review of the Library Internet flittering dispute began within minutes of updating and continued through gatherings like the South Oakland Business Expo and the Historical Society's Town Hall and the YWCA's Armenian Dinner. Most readers preferred not to be identified should I decide to use their statements. Here's some of what has come in.

"No filters!," shouted a woman passing by in a restaurant.

The American Library Association and legislators both "wish to strip away the local autonomy of the library," and " . . . filters are in good company, librarians have never been perfect either," are statements in a pro-filter position paper submitted by Safe Libraries.
http://webpages.charter.net/tomeboy/filterredux.html

Dan Kleinman, of SafeLibraries.org, also sent an email to "Royal Oak Governmental Leaders" and provided a copy to me. -- FJV

"Solve the problem by getting rid of the computers," came from three or four readers, with one suggesting that the filtered and separate computers for children be retained.

"And, the commissioners are irritated because the Library displayed no interest in validating parking tickets for patrons who use the Farmers Market lot," offered one long-retired city employee who was commenting about institutional animosity between the City and the Library, adding, "They've become so petty that they are blocking the Board's need to fill volunteer vacancies."

"Porn in the library isn't a real problem at this time. Should it ever become a real problem, perhaps we should revisit the filtering option, but it certainly isn't needed now," from a frequent library patron.

"Although the situation is much better, the biggest problem the library and police have is handling the homeless, not the Internet."

"I chatted with my Librarian friend today--who knows firsthand how dicey this whole topic is. She said the filters are so "club fisted" at her library that legitimate sites are blocked again and again. Only one person in the county can override the system--and that one person is often unresponsive.
 
"Last week a woman doing genealogy research-attempted to reach an obituary site and was blocked. She has petitioned for access but has had no response.
 
"My librarian tells me that the filter law was written to protect children from unwittingly being exposed to pornography at libraries. She argues that if parents would just supervise their kids-such a law would be unnecessary."

Much ado about very little
Except for two non-Royal Oak proponents of Internet filters -- one from Midland, one from New Jersey -- VersagiVoice has heard from only anti-filter or neutral citizens. I'm told that the allegedly heavy pro-filter email barrage to CITCOM (1) wasn't that heavy and (2) came from mostly non-Royal Oakers. I was disappointed to see no pro-filter column to contest my laissez-faire opinion in The Daily Tribune. There were a couple of lukewarm anonymous soundoffs, but I saw no signed letters to the editor in any of our local papers.

Does anyone other than the Taliban faction on CITCOM think Royal Oak's Library should put Internet filters on adult computers? -- FJV  

About Library control
CITCOM turns petty
There's no other word for it.
Not since two mayors ago has a turf war cast CITCOM in such an unseemly light. More than once, previous commissions held up appointments or found ways to remove existing volunteers for clearly personal or political reasons. Appointed Boards & Committees

Today, it is the Library Board that CITCOM seems to be holding hostage. Apparently, CITCOM will not approve appointments to fill Library Board vacancies until or unless the Library installs Internet filters on its adult computers.

That is the only reasonable conclusion after sitting through discussion about filters held during the library's recent board meeting, to which Mayor Jim Ellison carried CITCOM's message to the board. One board member concluded, in essence, "So, if after a review we decide to keep our current policies,  we'll still be butting heads."

Ellison also hinted that at least some commissioners object to one or more of the proposed appointees. That makes it impossible not to infer that those commissioners are unwilling to appoint anyone who they judge might stand up to CITCOM. Well the Repubs and the Dems in the U.S. Senate occasionally hold up appointments for less-than-straightforward reasons, so why not?

In all this, the focus on filters disappears. There is no surge of citizen pressure for filters. . . . All but one of the speakers during Public Comment at the board meeting oppose filters. . . .  Ellison acknowledged that a majority of the perhaps-10 emails he received from residents oppose filters.

So, CITCOM is representing . . . ? -- 02 Apr 08

The more I think about this library filter topic, the angrier I get!  When do they acknowledge that they are dealing with adults who should be capable of conducting themselves as adults whether at the library or out on the street?  The Morality Police seem to be alive and well in Royal Oak these days. This talk about the schools paying for drug testing of kids (while using my tax dollars that they were so desperate for a couple of years ago) and the idea from the Community Coalition that we should go out and "pretty up" all of the local bars, etc. drives me slightly crazy!! 

CITCOM needs to stop overreacting to this topic. Rather than approach it in an emotional way, they need to use logic, rational thought and some common sense.  Now that I think of it, that would be good advice for them on a regular basis. -- Karen Crawford

Thank you for your work to illuminate the filtering issues surrounding Royal Oak Public Library. Thee is a library web page devoted to the issue: www.ropl.org/filter/ -- Metta Lansdale

Librarian Metta Lansdale was scheduled to be our guest speaker, but Friday night, after hearing from city commissioners, she decided it was in the best interest of the library if she not attend the meeting and speak.  So we did not hear from Ms. Lansdale. I think Ms. Lansdale made the right decision.
 
We had roughly 35 people in attendance. We discussed the issue of library filters for about 30 minutes. At the start of the discussion roughly half the crowd was in favor of filters. At the end of the discussion former Library Board member Rick Wallace proposed a resolution that our club go on record opposing filters on adult computers at the library. The motion passed unanimously.

 
I've noticed that trend a lot on this issue--the knee-jerk reaction of many people (regardless of political persuasion) is "yes, we need filters!"  But, after you rationally discuss the issue, nearly everyone changes their mind and realizes that filters are bad policy. I believe this is why the American Family Association is deliberately whipping up hysteria and attempting to stampede this ordinance through the city commission. Reasoned debate and reflection is their enemy. -- Tom Regan, from a meeting of Royal Oak Area Democratic Club

31 Oct 07
Frank
Why are you recommending that people hang onto their absentee ballots? Are you anticipating some sort of "midnight letter" or other smear tactic to appear to try to influence the outcome of the election? The campaign is essentially over, the debates and forums are in the book, as it were. I thought it was a very peculiar suggestion on your part to ask absentee voters to hang onto their ballots. What was your reasoning?
  -- Name withheld (by VersagiVoice)

Reply
Nothing nefarious about my advice to Absentee Voters. I and some of my friends have had the experience of returning the ballots within a day or two after receiving them, only to learn something that would have changed our vote about a candidate or an issue. The learning came from letters to the editor, attending a Service Club forum, a candidate showing up on the doorstep, taking the time to read an LWV Voters Guide, campaign mailings, talking to others. Muriel took our absentee ballots to City Hall this afternoon. We had decided to wait until after Tuesday's forum. -- Frank V

CONTEXT
 A CITCOM resolution dated 1/18/93 and still in effect reserves the Commission Chambers "for use by the City of Royal Oak for official meetings [emphasis mine] and by the 44th District Court [no longer in City Hall]." The 1993 resolution rescinded a 1973 policy which allowed outside groups to use the chamber -- for a fee. The fee schedule ranged from $17.50, for one hour or less, to $32.50, for more than 4 hours. One of the "whereas" clauses in the 1993 resolution cites the availability of "additional city-owned facilities [which] have become available for meetings of community groups and associations" as one reason for rescinding the 1973 policy.

 

Neither the 1973 nor the 1993 policy assigns any responsibility to the city for mounting non-official events. The 1973 policy required any sponsoring organization to file "a certificate of public liability insurance" and to provide such information as:

  • Estimated number of people attending.

  • Percentage of members of the sponsoring organization who are Royal Oak residents.

  • "A list of the names, address, and signatures [emphasis mine] of those persons 18 years of age or older who are residents of Royal Oak and will serve as co-sponsors for their organization's meeting. A minimum of 5 such co-sponsors is suggested." -- 10 Oct 07

Tom King, first DDA leader, re the 'eternal corner' at 696
Concerning the City Commission looking into a health club for the "eternal corner", possibly you will remember I tried to get the City to consider putting in a MAC club (currently in Lansing and GR). Mac= The Michigan Athletic Club - a very large and first class operation. Unfortunately the idea went nowhere with the powers-that-be. I believe this was in 1988 or thereabouts.  I know several of the administration went to Lansing to see the facility - but I can't recall the exact outcome. In any event I think this (still) might have some real possibilities.  My guess is that the City Commission will screw it up - as usual.

My overall view for this property is as it has always been since they (Dennis Cowan and cohorts) allowed that developer to put in two rows of condos instead of one row of 5 story condos. This action took up almost double the originally anticipated space and makes a multi-story parking deck mandatory - the cost of which is quite high - like $25 to $30,000 per space.  My belief is that any high-density, high-tax property is going to require the City Commission to come up with at LEAST 1/2 of the funding.  But then why shouldn't they?  It was "their" stupidity that the caused the problem in the first place.
-- 29 Aug 07

PS - When I said the City would/should come up with half the construction costs - I was speaking of the cost of the parking deck only - not the project itself. -- 05 Sep 07