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Commission meetings are often boring, sometimes interesting, occasionally irritating, and rarely exciting, but attending them or watching them on television offers insight into issues and personalities which would be difficult to achieve any other way. That's transparency.  

Below, occasional observations and impressions

Some readers confuse two similar terms: Public Comment is that time early in the meeting during which individuals are offered up to 5 minutes each to talk about almost anything. A Public Hearing is the discussion period focused on a specific agenda item like a lot-split or an alley vacation. See Does Public Comment serve democracy?

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For the official minutes, go to the city's website.

12 July 2010

Productive CITCOM meeting
Despite presence of a handful of gunslingers

There were several quiet disagreements but no histrionics as the commission made 14 unanimous and 2 split decisions. There were a few minutes of post-meeting histrionics when Commissioner Terry Drinkwine seemed to lose it as he addressed the issue of people openly carrying handguns in the commission chambers.
 
There were two especially substantive unanimous and one split decisions:
  1. With only weeks to go and six months after cavalierly approving Arts, Beats & Eats, the city is still struggling to find sufficient parking space and is far from comfortable with its progress toward assuring sufficient staffing, including volunteers, to deal with parking locations as distant as Hazel Park. Reluctantly, CITCOM approved an amorphous deal with the private company now managing our parking structures to take care of the whole ABE mess -- for a less-than-clear final fee. The seriousness of all this is that only income from parking stands to provide a profit, rather than a loss, to the city. Something as simple as a couple days of bad weather can kill any possibility of profit.
  2. Approved  two, denied one, and sent back for revision one of the four proposed City Charter Amendments from the Charter Review Committee: Approved were (A) the proposal to provide that the Mayor Pro Tem succeeds to the office of mayor in the case of resignation or permanent disability of the mayor and (C) Changing the time for induction into office of newly elected officials from noon, the First Monday in December after the election to the First City Commission meeting in November after the election results have been certified. . . . Denied was (B) the proposal to allow mid-term commissioners to remain in office after becoming a candidate for mayor. . . . Sent back for modification (D) the proposal to allow vacancies on the commission to be filled by the losing candidate who had received the highest number of votes in the most recent election. CRC Chairman Ron George promised to have the revised version in their hands for next week's meeting.
  3. The major split decision was after what to regular city hall watchers feel is the hundredth look at the Fencing Ordinance. After discussion revealed the unreasonableness of amending a city ordinance after only a couple of "spite fences" had caused complaints, CITCOM voted not to amend  the ordinance. The vote to defeat the First Reading was  2-5, with No-votes from Andrzejak, Drinkwine, Ellison, Rasor, and Semchena.
  4. There was a fourth to-do when a couple of the commissioners found it impossible to distinguish between the item on the agenda, which was simply to establish a hearing date re the Medical Marijuana Moratorium, and the nature of the proposed use of a piece of property for a medical marijuana clinic -- which is to be the subject of the hearing.

Other decisions dealt with routine issues like lot splits. The second split decision had to do with a paving assessment.

The gunslinger moment
During Public Comment, three or four individuals -- at least one openly carrying a  handgun -- warned the city that the language in the Arts, Beats & Eats contract which bans legally carrying of firearms in the festival area is illegal. Enforcing the language, they said, would leave the city and ABE liable to legal action. The comments were made quietly -- not counting the rather arrogant pitch by a self-declared attorney -- and Mayor Jim Ellison  reported that he and the city attorney are among those who had received emails from the  group. (Although I did not see them while watching on TV, there was reference to several gunslingers in the audience.)

During Public Comment, Commissioner Drinkwine asked the lawyer if he is a Royal Oak Resident. The lawyer isn't. The next speaker preempted any such question by opening his statement with "I am a Royal Oak resident."

After the CITCOM meeting ended and before adjournment. Drinkwine went on what can only be described as a rant. He demanded immediate action by city Staff to ban weapons in the commission chambers or in the building. He wanted the Police Department to place armed officers in the back of the chambers to protect everyone in the room. As he went on, the number of officers required ranged from 6 to 1. Commissioner Jim Rasor, in a quieter tone, chimed in with a milder request for action. Somewhere in there, Drinkwine suggested he might come to meetings carrying a gun.

Both commissioners found it hard to believe that the city does not have the authority to ban legally carried sidearms. Modern technology came to the rescue when City Attorney David Gillam used his laptop to call up the case history about Ferndale's failed attempt to enforce such action. And Police Lieutenant Barry Gale used his hand-held what-you-call-it to call up the several exceptions to that restriction. They included churches, hospitals, courts, and bars -- but not city halls or public buildings in general.

Which led someone to suggest that since Arts, Beats and Eats will be "one large bar" the city should be able to prohibit firearms in the  festival area.

19 July 2010, part 1

Gunslingers at CITCOM - 2
Pistol-packing militants irritate and bore

I'm pro-gun, but the second appearance at CITCOM of those gunslingers-with-a cause makes it easier for me to understand why neutrals who saw either performance by these guys (no gals) comes away despising  their cause. It was a circus, complete with a couple of them carrying his laptop to the lectern and reading his speech off the monitor -- the poor man's teleprompter.

Arrogantly citing chapter-and-verse of this or that state law, they continue to threaten, threaten, threaten. Not to shoot anybody, but to carry their guns during Arts, Beats & Eats and to sue the city and ABE if there is any attempt to restrict that carrying. Without naming the commissioner, they repeated and challenged some of his ill-advised ranting from last week's CITCOM meeting. God bless him, though, he was one of two at The Table who refused the demand from one clown to publicly announce their name and home address before he would announce his. Juvenile posturing.

I'm not questioning their rights, I'm questioning their judgment. That judgment is obviously distorted by their unthinking zeal. Our city officials have the resources to decide how, or whether, to take on this group of gun nuts, but it's fun to be bored and irritated by them.

The rest of the CITCOM meeting was routine, and I'll summarize it next week.

19 July 2010, part 2

Beyond the gunslingers
19 July CITCOM meeting, Part 2

Once the gunslingers finished their circus act during Public Comment last week, CITCOM got to work and accomplished routine business.

  • Reluctantly but unanimously approved the agreement for paying the Oakland County Sheriff's Office for its coming help in policing the Arts, Beats & Eats festival. There was some grumbling that Royal Oak taxpayers already pays those guys and surprise that the city has to pay overtime rates ("not  even a discount?"). In a later news report a Sheriff's Office spokesman commented that the department doesn't offer free service to a for-profit event, suggesting that any comparison with their work on the Woodward Dream Cruise is misguided.
  • On a 4-3 vote, thought they had approved a proposed Charter Amendment which had been revised at CITCOM's request. A correction to the Synopsis-Minutes pointed out that a change to the charter requires a super majority, so it failed. Voting against the amendment were Drinkwine, Poulton, and Rasor. The amendment would call for the next best vote-getter in the latest election to be appointed to fill a commissioner-vacancy which occurs within the first year after the election.
  • Unanimously authorized City Manager Don Johnson to proceed with adjusting AFSCME hours to 32 per week and to close City Hall and Department of Public Services office any one day per week as he deems necessary. The details are a bit confusing, since some employees will be working in city hall, even though the facility will be closed to the public, and there may be changes as collective bargaining continues. Friday is the day city hall will be closed.
  • Voted 6-1 to approve the Liquor Control Committee's recommendation to grant the transfer of liquor license from Memphis Smoke to Cantina Diablo. Because Diablo had agreed not to have not even piped-in music on its rooftop, there was a bit of confusion over whether the extensive sound-proofing installation still needed to be installed. Especially since the petitioner has made it clear that he will be back seeking permission to have music, that sound-attenuating installation is part of the approval. Capello voted No, saying, "This isn't just a transfer; it's an expansion."
  • Very clear, yet detailed, budget amendments were unanimously approved. Go to the CITCOM meeting's agenda on the City's Website for those details.
  • Although Rasor suggested there is no need to rush, he joined in making unanimous the decision to request City Attorney Dave Gillam to draft an ordinance intended to "protect" for recreational purposes several parcels of land near Thirteen Mile and Coolidge. The ordinance will be placed on the November ballot. If approved, only another vote by the residents could reverse the decision.
  • As part of visualizing Royal Oak "ten years from now," Rasor introduced the concept of a "Central Park" replacing the parking lot outside city hall. No action was required but he has planted the idea -- which local architect Frank Arvan has dreamed of for years and which he supported during Public Comment.

09 Aug 2010

About firearms and marijuana
51 residents and visitors address CITCOM

Sixteen people spoke for and against the wisdom of openly carrying firearms at "the wrong time and place," even though it's legal.
Thirty-five spoke for and against permitting the establishment of a commercial medical marijuana-growing facility in Royal Oak.

Exaggerating a bit, about half of each group of speakers threatened to sue the city, if officials make the wrong decision.

About the gun-thing, specifically as it pertains to Arts, Beats & Eats, City Attorney Dave Gillam will prepare pertinent language in time for next week's CITCOM meeting. About the proposed medical marijuana facility, specifically about exempting the petitioner from the current moratorium, it seems certain that, at least for now, it ain't going to happen. At a previous meeting, the petitioner seemed to threaten legal action, based on the hardship on the owner of the property if he is not permitted to rent his vacant building.

The audience was so heterogeneous that both pro and con speeches were applauded during the two debates. The arguments were made emotionally at times, but there was solid reasoning there, too, and I'll prepare a helpful summary for next week's VersagiVoice.

For now:
About carrying arms during the Arts, Beats & Eats festival: Drinkers get into fights all the time (not as often as anti-alcohol people contend, but often enough). Worst case scenario with hundreds of guys and gals walking the streets drinking beer is some drunk unable to resist taking on a civilian packing heat or reaching to touch the firearm.

About medical marijuana, it will take time, but it still make sense to me to Legalize Drugs and hold people responsible for their behavior, whether or not they are under the influence of a drug.

Among the other routine business of the night, the only interesting item was the defeat (3-4) of Commissioner Jim Rasor's motion to deny terminating the escrow agreement with Fresard Investments (thus releasing $200,000 or so to Fresard. Voting against the motion to deny were Commissioners Mike Andrzejak, Pat Capello, Chuck Semchena, and Mayor Jim Ellison. A follow-up motion to terminate the agreement passed (4-3), with Commissioners Terry Drinkwine, David Poulton, Jim Rasor voting No.

The meeting lasted six hours, adjourning at 1:37 a.m. Except for ignoring Mayor Ellison's request not to applaud, the audience was respectful of both opposing speakers and of the officials. Ellison ran a good meeting. This was democracy at its best. Our elected officials earned their $20 for this marathon.

09 Aug 2010
Medical Marijuana

Unless unfavorable legal considerations override sentiment, Royal Oak intends to make no accommodation for growing or dispensing marijuana intended for medical use -- except , one hopes, for home-growing by eligible patients. Certainly that is where the city stands now, a day or two after the 09 August 2010 CITCOM meeting, where 35 Public Comment Royal Oakers and out-of-towners made their pro and con pitches The city attorney has been directed to prepare language concerning options to present at the 16 August meeting.

It immediately became obvious that most of those opposed to a proposed commercial growing-facility are unable or unwilling to grant any special consideration for medical marijuana. Pot is pot in their minds. That does not detract from the substance of their concern: Marijuana is a gateway drug. . . . Its use, especially by young people, often results in anti-social, even criminal, behavior. . . .Used by adults, marijuana dulls the mind for everything from driving to data entry. . . . The invited opening speaker cited his California experiences to paint a picture of out-of-control pot dispensaries and of street gangs. He cited sources who or which contend that no medical benefits have been proved from the use of marijuana.

Proponents of medical marijuana included patients, caregivers, and a couple of individuals who are both patients and caregivers. One woman calmly announced that she is in chronic pain and "I'm dying." . . . They consider themselves living proof of the medical benefits. . . . A major concern of the patients is that misinterpretation of Michigan's law permitting medical marijuana will result in attempts to prohibit patients from growing their own supply at home.

Many speakers and a couple of commissioners said they voted for the Michigan law, which they considered a compassionate compromise that  would be implemented along the traditional doctor-prescription-pharmacy path. They are uncomfortable with creating a non-medical marijuana industry outside that path.

Tangentially, there are those who see economic benefits to Royal Oak in permitting growers and dispensaries. There will be employment and more income for the city. . . . Not so, reply those who say property taxes are paid even on unoccupied property, so there's no gain for the city. . . . Actually, it was the petitioner's unsuccessful attempt to prove hardship which caused the unanimous vote to deny his request. A second petitioner will be offered a hearing at the September 20 CITCOM meeting. The decision to grant the hearing came on 4-3 vote (Andrzejak, Semchena, Drinkwine voting No), after City Attorney Dave Gillam stressed the "due process" requirement in the moratorium.

The preceding paragraphs summarize what 35 speakers had to say, beginning with a petitioner's request to be exempted from the city's Medical Marijuana Moratorium, to establish a marijuana-growing facility in which several caregivers could grow enough plants to serve the legally allowed number of card-carrying patients.

From the commissioners, the opposing positions were well presented (but, unfortunately somewhat personalized) by Chuck Semchena and Jim Rasor. Their polar positions became evident at the very beginning of the CITCOM meeting, with the unattributed inclusion on the agenda of a federal Drug Enforcement Agency representative who was granted, with no time limit, the opportunity to present a talk titled "Rising crime rates and Michigan's new Marijuana Law." It developed that Chuck had arranged the presentation. Chuck explained that the DEA agent had spoken recently at some conference on the topic. Rasor asked permission to introduce another speaker who had also made a presentation at the conference. His request was denied, and his speaker was granted an extra minute or two after his time-limited talk during Public Comment.

Semchena's basic point is that, the actions of 14 states to the contrary, medical marijuana is illegal under federal law. He opts for what he calls the "Livonia Option," and he stresses that Royal Oak must act before its  moratorium expires at the end of October. Rasor maintains that the Livonia Option seems to prohibit home-growing for medical purposes. He suggests that if Royal Oak nullifies what is permitted by state law, "We are going to be sued." Rasor is seen as pro medical marijuana and has maintained that permitting and regulating legal businesses would benefit the city economically. He smiled when one Public Comment speaker teased that Jim seems to have his own "stimulus plan" to help the city's finances. In a more serious mode, Rasor snapped at someone who attempted to interrupt his comments: "You've been talking for three hours. It's our turn."

Somewhere in all this it was discussed whether the Planning Commission should schedule another marijuana-focused hearing. I don't recall that any decision was reached.

The vote to approve Semchena's request for ordinance language which forbids any land use that is "illegal pursuant to Federal, State, or Local law" was 6-1, Rasor voting No.

Oakland County's legal department has made available to cities a 63-page report based on its research about all this. The report lists three options for each city: (1) Adopt a moratorium. (2) Regulate medical marijuana through zoning ordinances and permits. (3) Attempt to ban medical marijuana to the extent possible. (Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills have banned anything that violates federal law. L. Brook Patterson favors a ban. -- Aug 2010

See Legalize Drugs

16 Aug 2010

CITCOM blinks, Part 1
Pistol-packing permitted at Arts, Beats & Eats
After listening to 45 Public Comment speakers for 2 hours, CITCOM reluctantly decided -- on a split vote -- to follow City Attorney Dave Gillam's research-driven advice to remove the gun-ban language from the city's contract with Arts, Beats & Eats.

With the vote shaping up at 3-3, Mayor Jim Ellison came down on the side of "following" state law." Joining him were Commissioners Andrzejak, Capello, Semchena. Voting No were Commissioners Drinkwine, Poulton, Rasor.

There are four lawyers at The Table, three elected commissioners and the appointed city attorney. They split 2-2 -- Gillam and Semchena vs Poulton and Rasor.

At issue was the fact that the state law which everyone was citing is fuzzy and leaves open to interpretation whether the liquor and entertainment restrictions apply to the ABE venue on the public streets of Royal Oak which are being turned over to a for-profit operation. Rasor's comments were the most vehement, and he openly challenged the gun-slingers to sue, should the vote not go in their favor. He predicted that an Oakland County or Federal judge would rule against them.

As I listened to the 45 speakers, including the handful of arrogant ones, I decided that were I at The Table I would have voted to leave the gun-ban in place. Next week, my extended report on the CITCOM meeting will convey in detail the content and flavor of the night and include a summary of other business conducted.

After the vote, Ellison pleaded with the open carriers: Having made your point, please don't carry at Arts, Beats & Eats.

16 Aug 2010: CITCOM blinks, Part 2
Pistol-packing permitted at Arts, Beats & Eats
The Gun Fight

From about 8 o'clock till 10 o'clock, 41 of the 45 persons who spoke during Public Comment addressed the open-carry issue. 19 of the 41 (40%) are against guns at ABE and in public buildings.

There were not 41 different arguments presented. Emotions and varying interpretations aside, we had half a dozen specific points of contention. In this listing, Pro-Open Carry comments are in color.

TIME & PLACE
City Hall or Arts Beats & Eats is not the right time or place to show your guns.

There is no "right"  time and place. You're safe until you're not. Think Columbine.

SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS
The U.S. Constitution gives us the right to bear arms. . . . To limit this right endangers other constitutional rights. . . . I lived in the Soviet Union. The USSR Constitution listed the same rights as the U.S., but it was a useless piece of paper.

No right is absolute. The right of free speech doesn't grant the right to should "fire" in a crowded theater. We're not questioning your rights. . . . Judgment is called for.

EMOTIONS, FEAR
We should not be deprived of our rights because of ignorance or irrational fears. There's no chilling effect. Look at all the people attending these meeting.

Don't  tell me how to feel. Our fear is real. You guys are so afraid that you have to carry a gun, but then you tell us you have never had to remove it from its holster, so what are you afraid of?

Of course open guns are intimidating. That's why police carry them.

ARTS, BEATS & EATS
Make that "Guns, Beats & Eats. . . . This festival and these gun guys have turned Royal Oak into a circus. . . . Send it back to Pontiac. . . . Thousands of people -- including drinking people -- will be mingling shoulder-to-shoulder. . . . Some drunk starts a fight going after your gun, or a shot is fired . . .

That 's scare tactics. . . . My gun guarantees my safety. I'm offended when people talk against open carry. . . . Fear does not matter, the law is clear. . . . This is not about a festival, it's about the law.

GUNS & ALCOHOL
Guns and alcohol do not mix, and Arts, Beats & Eats is an alcohol event. . . . People with a concealed weapons buy drinks all the time. People carrying open cannot. . . . So you take off your gun while you order your beer. . . . We have all been vetted, trained, checked out by the FBI.

GUNS & MEDICAL MARIJUANA
One speaker made what he considers a point-by-point parallel between Commissioner Rasor's arguments for permitting Medical Marijuana operations in Royal Oak and permitting open carry at the festival and in city hall..

Rasor labeled the attempt at parallelism as "apples and oranges" and added, "Besides, marijuana never killed anybody."

VERSAGI VOICE COMMENT

  • "The law is the law."
    Not really. There were/are four lawyers at The Table and they split 2-2 about leaving the gun ban in place. If there  was
    ever a "time and place" to risk some insurance money on a legal challenge, this was it.

  • There was plenty of emotion, yes. But the anti-gun crowd pretty much stayed focused, while too many in the gun lobby personalized the discussion, using terms like  "ignorant" and  "not to be trusted."

  • Arts, Beats & Eats has been saddled with an undeserved  burden. This first year in Royal Oak at its best is going to be a touch-and-go experiment. Talk has already begun about its returning to Pontiac.

  • Promoter John Witz and his crew and their allies are making a gigantic physical and psychological effort to assure this festival succeeds in Royal Oak. To the degree that ABE succeeds or fails, this gun show may prove to have been a minor blip.

  • Guns & Alcohol
    VersagiVoice has been shown that concealed carriers are not to have illegal levels of alcohol in their system while carrying arms. So far, I have not been able to confirm whether the statement made in Royal Oak that an open carry guy can't order an alcoholic drink is legally true or the speaker mistakenly referred to the same limitation which applies to CCW.

The Rest of the Story

In addition to the Gun Fight, CITCOM conducted regular business from about 10 o'clock till 11:58.

  • Approved (6-1) a Brownfield Plan for 3380 Greenfield. Capello voted No after asking several questions about the related money transactions.

  • Unanimously approved the mayor's appointment of Michael Fournier to fill the vacancy on the Library Board created by the Primary victory of Ken Rosen to compete against Jim Townsend for Marie Donigan's term-limited seat in Lansing. [CORRECTIONS -- Deb Anderson:  Rosen won the Republican nomination and will run against Jim Townsend for Donigan's seat. Mayor Ellison: Rosen remains on the Library Board. The vacancy was caused by a the resignation of Jeanne Sarnacki.]

  • Unanimously approved a couple of Traffic Committee recommendations.

  • Approved (6-1) a Special Assessment for Paving of University. Drinkwine voted No.

  • After some parliamentary jockeying, which saw Rasor withdraw his Second of Semchena's motion, voted (6-1) to approve the denial of the petition to be exempted from the city's Medical Marijuana Moratorium. Rasor voted No, based on his concern that Semchena's comments re intent went beyond simple rejection of this specific request.

  • Unanimously approved the Liquor Control Committee's recommendation to grant a temporary expansion of space to permit an "Ice Bar" to Sangria's.

  • Unanimously ratified the tentative collective bargaining contract with AFSCME.

  • Approved (6-0 -- Rasor out of the room) modifications in the Development Agreement pertaining to the area near Eleven  Mile and Maxwell. The YMCA, proposed condos, and a proposed retail operation are part of the development.

  • Unanimously approved a resolution to be sent to Lansing in support of making Public Buildings Gun-Free zones.

  • Unanimously approved Capello's modified request for an abbreviated monthly Revenue and Expense Update from the Administration.

  • Approved Semchena's request for Staff to generate modification of the Storm Water Detention Ordinance. With the city's short-staffing in mind, the request is to be accomplished "within a reasonable timeline."

  • Approved (5-2) requesting the city attorney to prepare language to amend the Liquor Control Ordinance to prohibit the reopening of a closed alcohol-licensed establishment without CITCOM approval. Drinkwine and Rasor voted No. The issue is legally murky and has been raised because a Receiver has been put in charge of the renewed operation, using the currently valid liquor license.

  • Among all that routine business, the 4-3 vote was taken to remove the gun ban from the Arts, Beats & Eats contract. The vote:
    Remove the Gun Ban: Ellison Andrzejak, Capello, Semchena.
    Fight 'em in court: Drinkwine, Poulton, Rasor.

Limit Public Comment Speakers to 3 Minutes

Ten hours of gun talk forces me to repeat my suggestion that Public Comment speakers be limited to 3 minutes, rather than 5, whatever the topic.

First, the basic thought is clear within the first minute or two. All the rest is repetition of the basic thought -- sometimes rambling, sometimes in exactly the same words.

Second, watch the speakers watch the digital clock -- and feel compelled to keep talking until they have used up their 5 minutes.

 

 

August 16, in 2 Parts

August 09, 2010
Medical Marijuana

August 09, 2010

July 10, 2010, part 2

July 19, 2010, part 1

July 12, 2010 

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