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Coffee Conversation

Mary W. Karshner
Director
Royal Oak Public Library

“For pre-schoolers, think of a book as a toy.” . . . “Young moms network when they bring in their tots.” . .  “Seniors, as well as young adults,
attend our weekly technology seminars, to learn about everything from smart phone apps to how to get the  most out of our electronic
catalog.”. . . “CD’s. e-books, the Internet: People think ‘book,’ but a library is so much more.”

Sure, Library Director Mary Karshner talked about budgets and parking problems, but she was upbeat and enthusiastic through most of our
coffee conversation at Jimi’s. The enthusiasm carried over from our warm-up chatter during which she reminisced about her five years of
archaeological digs in
Iran, Spain, England, and Italy, which preceded her career-track to library director. 

A resident of Royal Oak who grew up in Huntington Woods, Karshner, 60, worked at the St. Clair Shores Public Library and Detroit Public
Library’s Burton Historical Collection before starting at Royal Oak Public Library in 2002.  She is the mother of two
 college-aged children who have reached “a wonderful stage of being good company and continually widening my horizons.”  She and She and her husband also host high school foreign exchange students during the school year. 

More than 54,000 persons a month visited the library, 2009-2010, totaling 653,000 for the year. The
monthly average for 2006-2007 was about 25,000 and for 2007-2008 reached 40,000. “Sure, our services and
our programs account for much of that growth, but we recognize that bad economic times increase attendance,” Mary
 acknowledges. As in any conversation, we bounced from topic to topic, so in no particular order:

That bit about pre-school literacy. “Think about it. Every time a child turns a page, she encounters different illustrations, colors, words,
even textures. She comes to understand that there is new information presented with each page-turn. So her first exposure to a book is as
a toy.” The moms who bring in their toddlers socialize, so being at the library serves both age groups.
 

The Strategic Plan developed in 2008, before Mary became director, has served well but needs to be “revisited,” as one result of the
substantial drop in property values. Library revenue from its dedicated millage dropped 3%, 2009-2010; 10%, 2010-2011; and is expected
to drop 3.5%, 2011-2012. Total  revenue has dropped $300,000 over the last several years, with millage revenue falling below $2 million
for the first time. “We are operating on a very tight budget,” Mary says. “Unlike most city departments, the library is open 6 days a week
including 4 evenings for a total of 60 open hours a week. It is a constant challenge to staff the public service desks and the behind-the-scenes
functions like processing new books while working in furlough days and other time off.”  

As an example of other city offices that are being stretched, Karshner said, “Think about it. The city manager and the city attorney share a
secretary four days a week and have no secretary on Friday.” The conversation here drifted off into brief chatter about furlough days and the
impact of collective bargaining on the overall situation.
 

That led to talk of the occasionally mentioned strategy to “go-District,” to join with one or more other entities (another library, the school district)
to seek a dedicated millage and have an elected board. For one of the very few times during our conversation, Mary grew silently thoughtful
before her words made it clear that the pluses and minuses of going-district make the strategy questionable for Royal Oak at this time.
Practical considerations of providing services that are now handled by the city such as payroll and other financial services like accounts
payable and auditing; building and grounds maintenance; not to mention the need for new contracts and benefits for employees of the new
district library would make it a very complicated transition.
 

I mentioned the long-time institutional animosity between the Library and City Hall, especially the city commission. Karshner maintains that
the situation is much improved as people changed on both the library board and CITCOM.  
 

How about those suggestions from residents that the grassy area outside the library be converted into sort of a public park? “To begin with, it’s
the city’s park, not the library’s. Converting it to a
Veterans Memorial Plaza has created a beautiful and functional area.  We have
considered adding a bench or two to our emerging butterfly garden, but the funds aren’t there.”

Tight money means the library hasn’t hired or replaced a fulltime employee since 2004. “We have no depth,” Mary said, “We
now have 10 fulltime employees and 25 part-time (that equal about 11 full-time equivalents). That compares to 15 full time and 28
part-time in 2002.  All of our service measures like card holders, visits, lending transactions, reference questions, and programs have
increased significantly since 2002 but we are covering it with less staff.”
 

Talking about a park made me ask about parking.
Former director Metta Lansdale had rejected any suggestion that the library get involved in monitoring parking in any way (voucher, validation,
whatever). Karshner sees no reason to alter that decision. The library is adversely impacted on Thursday night, when it is open till
9 o’clock.
It closes at six on Friday and Saturday, so downtown activity doesn’t impact it. “I have to say though, because Clawson and Berkley have free
nearby parking, some of our cardholders use the services of those libraries rather than feed the parking meters. They put books on hold to be
picked up at the neighboring library. In some instances, Royal Oak residents live closer to
Berkley or Clawson’s libraries. We are all part of the
same library cooperative so the libraries honor each other’s cards.”
 

How has the mandated Internet filtering affected the who-and-what of computer use?
”We’re still patrolling since there are no perfect filters,” Mary answered.  She explained that the computer time management system is library
co-op wide, so that the
Royal Oak’s 4-hour limit includes computer time used at other Library Network libraries like Clawson or Berkley.

Karshner boasts about the library’s “strong” youth and teen programs, including “programs to build pre-literacy and literacy skills at no cost to
participants (hence, her “a book can be a toy” comment, above).  The programs are much more than librarians sharing books with the
audience; they include age-appropriate activities and crafts, some with a strong science and math element to them.  One that Karshner
mentioned was a family program she did about popcorn because she realized many children have not seen popcorn actually popping since
it all happens out of sight in the microwave popcorn bag.  Even many of the adults had no idea that you can grow popcorn plants. So, Mary
germinated some popcorn seeds in the weeks leading up to the program and equipped with her old hot air popcorn popper, she had an
entertaining, educational, and edible program about popcorn.
 

Budget problems aside, a primary concern for Mary Karshner is “getting the word out.
Even regulars from the library’s 31,000 cardholders say, “I didn’t know you did that,” about many of the library’s services.

"The library offers programs for all ages and averages about 45 programs per month. The library has many 24/7 remote access services and
databases that people can use without even coming to the library.  Library card holders can download e-books and audio books or access
databases that provide everything from learning a foreign language to practicing standardized tests to auto repair information - All for free and
from the comfort of your home at any time of the day or night." 

Some people don’t realize they can access their library account from home to check due dates, renew books, and place holds, too.
Karshner sums it up by saying “Royal Oak Public Library is a tremendous resource for all residents.  The people of
Royal Oak get a very good
return on the millage that they approved in 2003 to give the library a dedicated source of revenue.  If you aren’t currently using the Library,
come and see what it has for you.”  
 

I left Jimi’s certain that one of the Library’s future programs will be an archaeological dig in one of Royal Oak’s 52 parks or some deserted
brown field.
-- May 2011