Also see: It's the End of the World, again Global Warming Hucksters The Skeptical Environmentalist
|
|
Global Warming Also see: It's the End of the World, again Global Warming Hucksters The Skeptical Environmentalist |
The Last Word?
Global Warming theory is advocated and supported
in the right hand column and is attacked and derided in the
left
hand column. Almost every position ever taken on the matter, every
argument ever brought forward -- scientific, speculative,
statistical, political, moral -- is touched on somewhere in the two
columns. The two reports hit the Internet on the same day. So, except for simple news reporting, and short of some
unlikely conclusive proof that one side is right, VersagiVoice
will let this be the last word, about the debate itself -- except
for an occasional snide comment from me. -- December
2008
February 2010
Electric automobiles:
Sell too many of them which have to be plugged in each night for recharging and
you will (1) overwhelm power grids, for which utilities will have to upgrade
transformers and power lines; and (2) raise rates for electricity, even for
those who don't use "cheap, off-peak" power. As The Economist puts it,
"It seems that everyone may have to chip in to get electric cars on the road."
Ed Wolfrum, Ph.D re "GREEN" Electric cars
The reality is that the electric car is less energy efficient than the present
I.C. engine.
Present long lines transmission loss is stated as 7.2% from the most recent data
being in 1995.http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_ele_pow_tra_and_dis_los_mil_kwh-transmission-distribution-losses-million-kwh)
My calculations inclusive of the fuel transmission costs and local (real)transmission
losses (from the grid to the home or office) put those losses closer to 35%.
(see:
I think that many scientists on either side of the global warming debate should withdraw and shut up. To illustrate:
I started my occupational life as a scientist. In the first of my three careers I was a chemist. I chose to specialize in inorganic chemistry. From that broad field, I picked metallurgical chemistry. As it happened, my first job and subsequent industrial career had most to do with copper-based alloys and very little with ferrous alloys.
I became recognized in my field and capped off that career with publication of a well-received book, "Routine Analysis of Copper-Based Alloys." Late in that career, plastics had become serious competition for many applications which had previously been the sole province of metals. I participated in the professional debate about the suitability of plastics as replacements for everything from extruded piping (polyethylene, PVC) to forged valves (nylon).
Regardless of my feelings about the potential market threat (I helped my employer add plastic products to our sales-mix), my participation in the public debate could be seriously considered only when I spoke from my expertise, copper-based alloys. I could not speak with authority about plastic vs. wrought iron or galvanized sheet metal or steel. About global warming,, my scientific background does not qualify me to offer more than my, anti-green, opinions.
Published lists of hundreds of "scientists" takings sides about global warming include such disciplines as chemists, biologists, archaeologists, physicists -- individuals who are not climate change scientists but who can easily be identified as pro- or anti-green. I have previously written that no scientist, whatever her field, can deny that every time nitric acid is poured over brass or bronze drillings, the metal will dissolve. It's conceivable, I suppose, that a disbeliever might come up with a computer model which proves otherwise.
The point: Putting aside the opinions of the non-specialists, climatologists disagree about global warming. Laypeople are understandably dismissive of scientific debates based largely on computer models when something as fundamental as the macro and micro placement of thermometers around the world is part of the argument.
The global warming, climate change debate is good for at least another generation or two. -- FJV:Feb 2010
House Democrats don't want Gore humiliated'
“The House Democrats don't want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.” -- Thursday, April 23, 2009 By Marc Morano
| .: U.S. Senate Committee on
Environment and Public Works :: Minority Page :.
Update on Gore's Refusal To Take the Pledge UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists
Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers. The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours – Stay Tuned… A hint of what the upcoming report contains “I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever. “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.” Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist. “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it
doesn’t listen to “The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes
it seem there is “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon
dioxide will virtually “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review. “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden. “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee. “Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh. “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles. “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way
or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say
so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the
driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda
Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology
Research at Chubu University in Japan. In addition, the report will feature new peer-reviewed
scientific studies
Meanwhile, while the UN climate conference is in
session here in Poznan, the bad scientific news for promoters of
man-made climate alarm just keeps rolling in. Below is a very small
sampling of very inconvenient developments for Gore, the United Nations,
and their promoters in the mainstream media. Peer-reviewed studies,
analyses, and prominent scientists continue to speak out to refute
climate fears. The data presented below is just from the past week. The authors looked at 750 years worth of the local ice core, especially the oxygen isotope. They claim to have found a very strong correlation between the concentration of this isotope (i.e. temperature) on one side and the known solar activity in the epoch 1250-1850. Their data seem to be precise enough to determine the lag, about 10-30 years. It takes some time for the climate to respond to the solar changes. It seems that they also have data to claim that the correlation gets less precise after 1850. They attribute the deviation to CO2 and by comparing the magnitude of the forcings, they conclude that "Our results are in agreement with studies based on NH temperature reconstructions [Scafetta et al., 2007] revealing that only up to approximately 50% of the observed global warming in the last 100 years can be explained by the Sun." Well, the word "only" is somewhat cute in comparison with the "mainstream" fashionable ideology. The IPCC said that they saw a 90% probability that "most" of the recent warming was man-made. The present paper would reduce this figure, 90%, to less than 50% because the Sun itself is responsible for 1/2 of the warming and not the whole 50% of the warming could have been caused by CO2 because there are other effects, too. Note that if 0.3 °C or 0.4 °C of warming in the 20th century was due to the increasing CO2 levels, the climate sensitivity is decisively smaller than 1 °C. At any rate, the expected 21st century warming due to CO2 would be another 0.3-0.4 °C, and this time, if the solar activity contributes with the opposite sign, these two effects could cancel. Even if you try to stretch these numbers a little bit - but not unrealistically - you have to become sure that the participants of the Poznan conference are lunatics. Flashback: New scientific analysis shows Sun “could
account for as much as 69% of the increase in Earth's average
temperature” (LINK) & (LINK) Dr. Bruce West, A U.S Army Chief Scientist,
Says Sun, Not Man, Is Driving 21 spotless days and solar magnetic field still in a
funk – Meteorologist Anthony Watts Excerpt: We are now at 21 days with
no sunspots, it will be interesting to see if we reach a spotless 30 day
period and then perhaps a spotless month of December. New Arctic ice
analysis reveals ‘No clear evidence of a delay in the start Oscillation Rules as the Pacific Cools – December 9, 2008 Excerpt: A cool wedge of lower-than-normal sea-surface heights continues to dominate the tropical Pacific, ringed by a horseshoe of warmer waters. The continuation of this long-term cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation stacks the odds against a wetter-than-average winter/spring in the southwestern United States. The latest image of sea-surface height measurements from the U.S./French Jason-1 oceanography satellite shows the Pacific Ocean remains locked in a strong, cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a large, long-lived pattern of climate variability in the Pacific associated with a general cooling of Pacific waters. […] Sea-surface temperature satellite data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration mirror Jason sea-surface height measurements, clearly showing a cool Pacific Decadal Oscillation pattern, as seen at: http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/sst/sst.anom.gif . "This multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation 'cool' trend can cause La Niña-like impacts around the Pacific basin," said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. […] This cool phase will likely persist this winter and, perhaps, beyond. Report: Sea Level rise 'has stumbled since 2005' – Meteorologist Anthony Watts – December 5, 2008 Excerpt: We’ve been waiting for the UC web page to be
updated with the most recent sea level data. It finally has been updated
for 2008. It looks like the steady upward trend of sea level as measured
by satellite has stumbled since 2005. The 60 day line in blue Long term sea level variations are primarily
determined with two different methods.” - Yes, I would agree, it is
indeed a variable of considerable interest. The question now is, how is
it linked Peer-Reviewed Study: Recent worldwide land warming'
NOT 'a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land'
- WorldClimateReport.com Key quote: “Evidence is presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response to increasing reenhouse gases (GHGs) over land.” Alert: 2008 will be coolest year of the decade!-
December 5, 2008 Excerpt: Flashback: Global Cooling? - 'Thirty years of warmer temperatures go poof' - National Post – October 20, 2008 Report: NASA’s James Hansen "adjusts" a cooling trend into a warming trend - December 9, 2008 Excerpt: "[H]ere is what the data looks like before
and after NASA GISS adjusts it. These are the USHCN “raw” and
“homogenized” ‘It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history’ – ‘Alarmists are in denial and running for cover'-
Washington Times Their rationale for continuing a lost cause is that weather events in the short term are not necessarily related to long-term climatic trends. But these are the same people who screamed at us each year that ordinary weather events such as high temperatures or hurricanes were undeniable evidence of imminent doom. Now that global warming is over, politicians are
finally ready to enact Climate Chancellor' No More – Der Spiegel Excerpt: Angela Merkel is facing withering criticism for remarks she made on Monday that seemed to back away from her earlier commitment to tackling climate change. Alert: Under the Weather: Internal Report Says U.N. Climate Agency Rife With Bad Practices - Fox News – December 4, 2008 Excerpt: As more than 10,000 delegates and observers gather in Poznan, Poland, to discuss the next phase in the battle against "climate change," a U.N. agency at the center of that hoopla badly needs to do some in-house weather-proofing. […] But the WMO, the $80 million U.N. front-line agency in the climate change struggle, and the source for much of the world's information in the global atmosphere and water supply, has serious management problems of its own, despite its rapidly expanding global ambitions. The international agency has been sharply criticized
by a U.N. The inspection was carried out by a member of the
United Nations Joint Inspection Unit (JIU), a small, independent branch
of the U.N. that reports to the General Assembly and is mandated to
improve the organization's efficiency and coordination through its
inspection process. […] WMO did not respond to a series of 16-year-old suggests sheep dung can help save planet Card business has really dung good - Daily Post North Wales Excerpt: The company makes its products at the Twll
Golau Papermill in Aberllefenni Slate Quarry using sustainable fuel and
materials. Every sheet of paper is made from recycled Katie 16, from Tal-y-Bont, Conwy, was appointed to
help spread the word on how Wales can reduce its carbon footprint and is
urging Lord Christopher Monckton: 'Companies could be sued
over climate change' The case of Dimmock v. Secretaries of State for Education and for the Environment in the UK in 2007 was a very clear warning. The UK Government threw all of the resources of the taxpayer and of the Meteorological Office at the case, attempting to defend Al Gore's sci-fi comedy horror movie against the plaintiff's allegation that it was serially and seriously inaccurate. The Government failed and was humiliated. The judge, having heard both sides,said bluntly of Al Gore, and particularly of his unscientific allegation that sea level was about to rise by 20 feet, that "the Armageddon scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view". A few more judgments like that and the "global warming" fantasy would rapidly collapse. End of scare. OOPS, We Forgot Siberia! (M4GW) - Weather Stations in
Coldest parts No Longer Reporting |
Thousands Negotiate New
Climate Treaty | LiveScienceLiveScience Groundbreaking developments in health, environment, animals, technology and space Go to SiteSpace.com Space science, astronomy and exploration Go to SiteAviation.com All the news you can use about flying better Go to SiteNewsarama Previews, reviews and commentary of comic books and genre entertainment including movies and TV shows Go to SiteSpaceNews Publication of record for commercial space, military space and satellite communication businesses Go to SiteStarry Night World's most realistic astronomy software and products Go to SiteOrion Telescopes, binoculars and accessories for all levels of amateur stargazers Go to Site Welcome, Guest Curious? Join our community!Members: Log InNew? Register: Join Now! SpaceAnimalsHealthEnvironmentTechnologyCultureHistoryVideoStrange NewsCommunity Store Environment Thousands Negotiate New Climate TreatyBy Arthur Max, The Associated Press posted: 10 December 2008 09:07 am ETBuzz up! del.icio.us Digg It! Newsvine reddit24 Comments | 6 Recommend POZNAN, Poland (AP) — Scientists studying the changing nature of the Earth's climate say they have completed one crucial task — proving beyond a doubt that global warming is real. Now they have to figure out just what to do about it. "It is critical for us to get a
much better understanding of the impact of Last year, Pachauri's IPCC, which collected the work
of more than 2,000 Since then, new evidence has emerged showing that ice
caps in the Arctic and Antarctic are melting, which threatens to
dramatically raise the level of the oceans and flood coastal cities and
low-lying islands. But Pachauri said there was no conclusive evidence the world is in imminent danger. "I don't think we should jump to conclusions if we get material that is based on the last one or two years," the Indian scientist said. The IPCC issues its reports every five or six years. The 2007 report cited a scientific consensus that global warming should be limited to 2 degrees Centigrade (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) to avoid the worst scenarios. To contain global warming to that target, carbon emissions must peak by 2015, then begin a rapid decline. Pachauri now says governments should reconsider whether even that goal goes far enough, since it would still raise sea levels from between 15 inches (40 centimeters) to 4.6 feet (1.4 meters). Dozens of scientists were among the delegations or nongovernment groups attending the Poznan conference, exhibiting some of the latest technologies and scientific studies. "The skeptics are doing a good job because they are
making us present ironclad proof," said Lawrence E. Buja, a climate
change researcher for the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research
in Boulder, Colorado. But since that battle is over, he said scientists
need to move on and look at the detailed impact of climate change. Buja, who contributed to the IPCC report, said
scientists are looking at But he said such radical solutions involve risks. "How are you going to go up and find all those little refractors and pull them down if something bad starts to happen?" he asked. At Home: Find a Recycling Center Near You QuestionAll wrote: AMjethroguitarist wrote: AMttowntom wrote: AMfrogman2008 wrote: AMHeath_Sellers wrote: AMSimon9 wrote: Look at back issues of Time and Newsweek (among other
publications) from 30 or so years ago and they claimed our problem was
"global cooling" or "The Coming Ice Age". AMdigitaltexan wrote: 2) Average annual temperatures are now trending downward since 1998 (NOAA) (University of Alabama) 3) Ocean temperatures have not risen since 2000 when the 3000 Argo buoys were launched. The buoys even show a slight decrease in ocean temperatures 4) The Arctic ice froze to February levels by December 07, there are 1mm more sq km than before (previous was 13mm sq km) 5) The Arctic ice is 20cm thicker than "normal" (whatever that is) 6) All polar bear pods are stable or growing (NOAA/PBS) 7) Mount Kilimanjaro is not melting because of global
warming, rather 8) The Antarctic is not "melting", it is growing in
most places, the 9) The majority of the Antarctic is 8 degrees below
"normal" (again, 10) The coveted .7 degree rise in temperatures over
the last 100 years 11) Al Gores film was just deemed "propaganda" in a
court of law in the 12) It was also just reveled that some of the footage
in Als film was 13) One of the scientists that originally thought that
CO2 preceded the 14) August 2008 was the first time since 1913 there were no sun spots. 15) The Medieval Warm Period was warmer than the 20th century (no SUVs) 16) Many scientists are now predicting 30 years of cooling. 17) The greenhouse effect is real, our small
contribution to it cannot 18) Several publications, including those that are
warmist have recently AMlabwarrior wrote:
Those concerns come from such sources as the Sierra Club in Michigan and
researchers at the University of Minnesota. Environmentalists are
concerned that the ecosystem will be damaged by extensive use of limbs
and bark and logging debris for power generation. In their mind, biomass
does not really qualify as "renewable" energy. Green enthusiasts fear
that biomass-focused investments may be at risk if public woodlands
become "unreliable sources" of biomass. The cost of removing and
transporting the biomass is also a disincentive. Among those pushing
biomass are government agencies which see the concept as reducing the
nation's dependence on foreign sources of oil. -- Associated
Press
§ Australia is
leading the revolt
against Al Gore’s great
big AGW conspiracy –
just as the Aussie
geologist and AGW
sceptic
Professor Ian Plimer
predicted it would. ABC
news reports that
five frontbenchers from
Australia’s opposition
Liberal party have
resigned their
portfolios rather than
follow their leader
Malcolm Turnbull in
voting with Kevin Rudd’s
Government on a new
Emissions Trading
Scheme. The Liberal Party is in turmoil with the resignations of five frontbenchers from their portfolios this afternoon in protest against the emissions trading scheme. Tony Abbott, Sophie Mirabella, Tony Smith and Senators Nick Minchin and Eric Abetz have all quit their portfolios because they cannot vote for the legislation. Senate whip Stephen Parry has also relinquished his position. -- Telegraph.co.uk
Electric automobiles:
Sell too many of them which have to be plugged in each night for recharging and
you will (1) overwhelm power grids, for which utilities will have to upgrade
transformers and power lines; and (2) raise rates for electricity, even for
those who don't use "cheap, off-peak" power. As The Economist puts it,
"It seems that everyone may have to chip in to get electric cars on the road."
-- Feb 2010
§
The French government on Wednesday said
it would abandon its plan to introduce a
carbon tax on domestic energy and road
fuels unless there was agreement for a
European Union-wide levy. he U-turn
on the
controversial environmental tax come
two days after the governing UMP party
of President Nicolas Sarkozy suffered a
heavy defeat in regional elections.
Senior UMP politicians have blamed the
defeat in part on the proposed tax,
which was due to come into effect on
July.--Financial Times: Europe
§
Climate change enthusiasts err when they cite this year's major
earthquakes as proof that mankind is messing up the planet. There is
"nothing unusual about the number of big quakes these days . . . The activity is
normal," says the Seismology Center at the Central Weather Bureau in Taiwan,
which felt a 6.4 quake of its own on March 4.
"Earth typically experiences one 8.0 or higher 'great' earthquake each year,
along with 17 major ones of magnitude 7 to 7.9, and 134 in the 6 to 6.9 range.
There are also some 1.5 million lesser seismic events each year," reports the
Christian Science Monitor in a review which adds, "We live on a geologically
active planet where temblors are normal. But there's more we can do to prepare
and respond to them." -- Mar 2010
Organic Myths
|
